{"id":1304,"date":"2009-01-16T03:40:31","date_gmt":"2009-01-16T11:40:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mhvt.net\/?p=1304"},"modified":"2009-01-16T03:51:55","modified_gmt":"2009-01-16T11:51:55","slug":"windows-live-pop3-checking-hotmail-messages-with-apple-mail","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mhvt.net\/?p=1304","title":{"rendered":"Windows Live POP3: Checking Hotmail Messages with Apple Mail"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/apple_mail.gif\" width=\"120\" height=\"120\" alt=\"Mac video tutorial\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\nBack in 2002, <strong>Microsoft<\/strong> had <strong>Outlook Express<\/strong> even for Mac users.  It was a useful free application for those who use <strong>Hotmail<\/strong> accounts.  Outlook Express never made it to OS X.  If they want to check their Hotmail messages, Mac OS X users are obliged to use <strong>Microsoft Entourage<\/strong>, a commercial application.<br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><\/p>\n<table width=\"460\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/entourage_edit_account.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/entourage_edit_account.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 01 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/entourage_error_description.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/entourage_error_description.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 02 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/windows_live_hotmail_plus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/windows_live_hotmail_plus.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 03 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMicrosoft Corp.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\nThings have changed over years even for Entourage users.  They can still check Hotmail messages if accounts are old.  But the POP function is no longer free for new Hotmail accounts.  For example, if I try to add an account whose e-mail address is <a href=\"mailto:junk5278@live.jp\">junk5278@live.jp<\/a>&#8230;  I get an error message that says &#8216;A Windows Live Hotmail Plus subscription is required.&#8217;  (See Screenshot 01-2.)  <strong>Hotmail Plus<\/strong>?  Microsoft says you can get additional Hotmail features including POP access for $19.95 (&#163;14.99, &#165;2,510&#8230;) a year.  (See Screenshot 03.)<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, Microsoft made an important announcement for Hotmail users as of January 14, 2009.  The company says POP access is available to Hotmail users in nine countries including Australia, Canada, German, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Spain, the U.K. and the U.S.  (See Screenshot 04.)  Hmm&#8230;  Does that mean POP access is available for Hotmail Plus only?  How about e-mail accounts with <strong>live.com<\/strong> (live.jp, live.co.uk&#8230;) as opposed to hotmail.com?  Well, let me find out if I can check Hotmail messages through a live.jp account (<u>without Hotmail Plus<\/u>) that I created several days ago, using Apple&#8217;s <strong>Mail<\/strong> (v. 3.5).  If I can, then I should be able to do the same with <strong>Mozilla<\/strong>\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s <strong>Thunderbird<\/strong>, <strong>Eudura<\/strong> and other e-mail applications.  &nbsp; <!--more--><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><\/p>\n<table width=\"460\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/windows_live.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/windows_live.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 04 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMicrosoft Corp.<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/add_account.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/add_account.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 05 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/incoming_mail_server.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/incoming_mail_server.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 06 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\nOkay.  My e-mail account is <a href=\"mailto:junk5278@live.jp\">junk5278@live.jp<\/a>.  Screenshot 05 shows the <strong>Add Account<\/strong> window.  So I need to enter this e-mail account in the second text area.  Next, let&#8217;s move on to the <strong>Incoming Mail Server<\/strong>.  The POP mail server is <strong>pop3.live.com<\/strong>.  (See Screenshot 06.)  Again, the user name should be <a href=\"mailto:junk5278@live.jp\">junk5278@live.jp<\/a>.  Then let&#8217;s move on to the <strong>Outgoing Mail Server<\/strong> window.  As shown in Screenshot 07, the SMTP server should be <strong>smtp.live.com<\/strong>.  And don&#8217;t forget to check the box for <strong>Use Authentication<\/strong>.<br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><\/p>\n<table width=\"460\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/outgoing_mail_server.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/outgoing_mail_server.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 07 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/account_summary.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/account_summary.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 08 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/accounts_advanced.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/accounts_advanced.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 09 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\nIn sum, it doesn&#8217;t matter what your e-mail domain is.  Whether your e-mail domain is hotmail.com, hotmail.co.jp, live.com, live.jp or live.co.uk, the POP server should be pop3.live.com and the SMTP server should be smtp.live.com.  Screenshot 08 shows the <strong>Account Summary<\/strong> window.  Note that <strong>SSL<\/strong> is enabled for both incoming and outgoing mail servers.  If I switch to the <strong>Advanced<\/strong> tab, the port is automatically set to 995.  (Screenshot 09.)  The default POP3 port is 110 without authentication.  And the default SMTP port is 25.  But since SSL is enabled, the port should be set to 587.<br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><\/p>\n<table width=\"295\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/junk913_gmail_receipt.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/junk913_gmail_receipt.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 10 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/junk5278_live_sent_out.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"mac\/hotmail_pop3_011609\/junk5278_live_sent_out.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"132\" alt=\"Apple Mail check Hotmail Windows Live POP3\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nScreenshot 11 &#8211; Source:<br \/>\nMacHouse<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\nThe top part of Screenshot 09 shows that my POP server is already working.  That means Mail has access to pop3.live.com to check my e-mail messages.  So let&#8217;s make sure that Mail also gains access the SMTP port.  So I&#8217;ll just type up and send a simple message to <a href=\"mailto:junk5278@live.jp\">junk913@gmail.com<\/a>.  (See Screenshot 10.)  And Screenshot 11 shows that I have received this message at junk913@gmail.com.<\/p>\n<p>Well, do I still need Microsoft Entourage?<br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\n<br \/><\/br><br \/>\nRelated articles<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/windowslivewire.spaces.live.com\/blog\/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!32413.entry\">A new way to get Hotmail on your phone &#8211; Windows Live<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in 2002, Microsoft had Outlook Express even for Mac users. It was a useful free application for those who use Hotmail accounts. Outlook Express never made it to OS X. 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